This page contains correspondence regarding CME planning for Dental Sessions at AMWC 2025
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updated 3 December 2024
Objective:
Organize a Dental/oral health session for the 14th Armenian Medical World Congress (AMWC 2025)
Purpose/Vision:
Produce measurable change in Armenian dental health as a result of our collaboration (see the AMWC2025 Mission Statement, below)
- Interested partners:
Armond Kotikian MD, DDS, FACS, Glendale California, maxillofacial surgeon, member AAMS - Georges Mosditchian DDS, Paris France, dentist, member of UMAF-Paris
- Jerry Manoukian MD Mountain View California, internal medicine, CME, member AHABA
- Berdj Kiladjian DDS, Boston, cofounder of Hand in Hand
- Irina Lazarian, Alisa Badalyan DDS, Howard Karagheusian Medical Benevolent Public Organization
- Dr Harmik Minassian, dental surgery, Lyon, Hand in Hand
Potential issues:
- Collaboration among dental health providers, diasporans, Ministry of Health, others
- Fluoridation
- Preventive health
- Dental training in Armenia
- Electronic medical records for dental care?
- Training for dental assistants and hygienists
- Establishing oral health as a public health priority
Planning session 14 December 2024 via Zoom call:
Meeting summary
Participants:
- Berdj Kiladjian, Dentist, Boston, Hand in Hand project
- Armond Kotikian, Maxillofacial surgeon, Los Angeles, Armenian American Medical Society
- Irina Lazarian, New York, Howard Karegheusian Foundation
- Jerry Manoukian, Physician, San Francisco, Armenian Healthcare Assoc of Bay Area
- Georges Mosditchian, Dentiste, Paris, Union Médicale Arménienne de France - Paris
Quick recap
The team discussed the challenges of expanding scientific knowledge within a large organization, the importance of collaboration, and the potential for collaboration with dental associations in Armenia. General topics were considered as potential discussion points. Some may be amenable to Plenary sessions, while others are addressed in breakout sessions:
- Dental training, dental assistant/hygienist training
- Fluoridation
- Interaction between Diaspora and Ministry of Health (and other institutions
- Preventive dentistry, involvement of schools, parents, MoH
Lastly, they discussed the organization of a dental conference, focusing on preventive dentistry and policy changes, and the potential involvement of dental schools and professionals in the conference.
Next steps
- Berdj to send Jerry contact information for potential participants and Lazar's information.
- Armond to reach out to his contact at the Ministry of Health.
- Jerry to reach out to Lilian and update her on the progress made.
- Jerry to circulate the meeting transcript and put it online for reference.
- Berdj and Irina to summarize electronic dental records used by Hand in Hand and Karegheusian Foundation
- Discuss the project with other potential participants (see below)
Summary
Armenia Situation and Congress Discussion
Jerry Manoukian and Armond discuss the points Jerry raised about the situation in Armenia. Georges Mosditchian, who has difficulty speaking English, says Jerry's points are good and can be discussed during the Congress. Mosditchian is the only board member in Paris who can communicate with them and thinks Jerry's work on the topic is good. He does not see any problems with the points Jerry raised.
Organizing Dental Session for Congress
Georges Mosditchian, a clinician from Paris, was asked to organize the dental session for the upcoming congress. He has lined up three doctors to give high-level speeches on implantology. However, he is hesitant to invite speakers who do not share the goal of helping Armenia. Jerry Manoukian clarifies that the main purposes of the congress are for Armenians to work together, which aligns with AMIC's mission, and to address issues in Armenia.
Georges added that there is a French Union for Oral Health, and that we should find similar dental associations in Armenia. Professor Lazar Yesayan is the president of the Armenian Dental Association and dean of the YSMU dental school.
Expanding Knowledge and Collaboration Challenges
Jerry Manoukian discussed the challenges of expanding scientific knowledge within a large organization and the importance of collaboration. He highlighted his role in ensuring the success of the conference and the need for a roadmap for future conferences. Berdj and Irina discussed the challenges of promoting preventive dentistry in Armenia, including the lack of interest from professionals and the need for better training. They also discussed the potential for collaboration, with a focus on creating a roadmap for future projects. The conversation ended with a discussion on the need for a common ground and the elimination of duplication in their respective projects.
Armenia Ministry of Health Outreach
The team discussed potential contacts within the Ministry of Health in Armenia to better understand the country's needs and challenges. They agreed to reach out to someone from the ministry before the upcoming Congress to gather insights and address potential roadblocks. The team also considered the possibility of collaborating with dental associations in Armenia to further their goals. The importance of preventive dentistry was emphasized, and the team agreed to reconcile any differences in approach between France and the US. The team also discussed the potential involvement of individuals (who have worked within the MoH) such as Shant Shekherdimian and Lorky Libaridian in finding a suitable contact within the Ministry of Health.
Dental Conference Planning and Involvement
The team discussed the organization of a dental conference, focusing on preventive dentistry and policy changes. They agreed on the need for a mix of roundtable discussions and abstract sessions, with a focus on preventive dentistry. The team also discussed the importance of involving the Ministry of Health and Ministry of Education in the planning process. They decided to prepare a document outlining their needs and expectations, and to circulate it among relevant stakeholders. The team also discussed the potential involvement of other dental professionals and organizations in the conference. A few names and organizations include Raffy Chouljian, Cyril Tahtadjian, Myron Allukian, Ministry of Health, Ministry of Education, YSMU dental school, AUA School of Public Health
Armenian Dental Schools and Zoom
The team discussed the dental schools in Armenia, with Irina and Berdj confirming there are three main ones, including a private school. Jerry Manoukian expressed concern about the ratio of patients to doctors in Armenia, suggesting it might be as low as 300 to one. The team agreed to keep the use of Zoom flexible, possibly using it once a month, and to exchange ideas when the time comes to use it. Jerry Manoukian proposed to send a transcript of the meeting to everyone for reference. The team also discussed the possibility of putting the transcript online for future reference.
Our next meeting is planned for mid-January 2025, exact time to be decided.
Regarding Continuing Professional Development credits
(CDE, CME, European and Armenian credits)
Dear All
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- Mission statement
- describe the problem
- Dental services are not evenly distributed among the population.
- Preventive care is not routinely sought, and dental visits are often delayed until there is an abscess.
- Dentistry in Armenia may also be experiencing a surplus of inexperienced dental graduates similar to what happens in the medical schools.
- Need to create a fluoridation policy.
- Dental assistants and hygienists are described as nurses and are not trained in any dental health procedures.
It is unclear whether fluoridation is currently being implemented in Armenia. Fluoridation of salt is an inexpensive way to prevent tooth decay, although past Ministers of Health have been resistant to the idea. A paper was published at AUA regarding the topic:
https://aua.am/chsr/UserFiles/File/new/Hayk%20Kanchinyan.pdf
- What else? Can a dentist who wants to volunteer find partners to work with?
- What are MoH's issues with dental care in Armenia? What does the licensure process look like?
Projects relating to dental services must work through the Ministry of Health. AMWC2025 is a time to discuss the problems and possible solutions in the presence of the Health Minister.
Per our colleage Zareh:
1- There is NO general strategy for the dental care in our Hayastan: number of dentists vs population. The generally accepted optimal ratio is usually 1500 patients per one dentist, whereas in Armenia it is 300/1 and yet they still graduate hundreds of young doctors at the university but also at “private” schools with doubtful qualifications and outcomes.2- There are no SERIOUS graduate programs. Meaning there are NO REAL specialists.3- There’s no university CLINIC where students can learn and practice under supervision as it is done everywhere in the world.4- licensing dentists and accreditation of dental schools.
- what results do we want?
Suggestions:
- round table discussions, sharing, brainstorming
- Allow each participant to discuss ongoing projects, curated on a map
- offer breakout sessions where pairs of associations dream up the ideal dental situation in Armenia and share the idea afterwards with the general group
- Point-counterpoint dialogue regarding fluoridation
- Lecturing is still OK, but let's ask ourselves how it will change things in Armenia
Communication and Informatics are two attributes that could easily make this effort worthwhile, even if patient care or medical knowledge are not addressed.
- Patient care or medical knowledge is fairly obvious if that's what we discuss
- informatics may include upcoming changes to ArMed system
- Systems - based practice may discuss registration and payment systems in Armenia or a system of collaboration among Diasporan volunteers
- Fluoridation: critical thinking and patient care
- (others are possible)
- what does success look like?
- Can we keep track of new collaborations or projects that arise out of our efforts? Even one new collaboration as a result of this Congress will qualify as "Improves Performance".
- A fluroridation policy in Armenia would be a great step forward.
- An agreement to develop training programs?
- Il y a des dentistes compétants en armenie, mais peut-etre il n'y a pas egalité. Les personnes pauvres n'a pas acces aux soins dentaires.
- Il y a besoin pour soins préventifs
- La Mission du congrès est (en anglais) cooperation, coordination, donc travaillerons ensemble. C'est la raison d'etre de CIMA. Comment pouvons-nous travailler ensemble ?
J'aide les organisateurs du Congrès de Madrid à obtenir des crédits CME (Continuing Medical Education) pour les États-Unis, ce qui nous aidera également à planifier les crédits européens et arméniens. En tant que tel, je propose ces réflexions bien que je ne sois pas dentiste.
La situation dentaire actuelle en Arménie est telle qu'il existe des services hautement qualifiés au point qu'il existe une entreprise de tourisme dentaire viable. Bien sûr, si tout était parfait, nous n'aurions pas besoin d'une séance dentaire au Congrès.
Les services dentaires ne sont pas répartis de manière égale parmi la population. Les soins préventifs ne sont pas systématiquement recherchés et les visites chez le dentiste sont souvent retardées jusqu'à ce qu'il y ait un abcès. La dentisterie en Arménie connaît peut-être également un surplus de diplômés dentaires inexpérimentés, similaire à ce qui se passe dans les écoles de médecine.
En attendant, la mission du Congrès met l'accent sur la collaboration entre les professionnels de la santé et les associations ; la déclaration de mission est collée ci-dessous. Il s'agit plus des C (collaboration, connexion, communication...) que d'apprentissage scientifique. C'est là que nous pouvons faire la différence. Réfléchissez à la manière dont les professionnels dentaires intéressés par le volontariat en Arménie pourraient trouver des projets en cours ou former de nouvelles collaborations.
Pensez à des domaines dans lesquels nous pourrions avoir une discussion productive. Qui pouvons-nous inclure dans cette conversation ?
Faites-moi part de vos réflexions. Bachigner
Jerry
Questions to consider | Answer |
How many dentists are there in Armenia? |
Generative AI estimates a few thousand Knoema lists 1,943 in 2009 WHO lists density of dentists at 4.2 per 10,000 pop. |
What is the funding for dental care | |
What are the dental school programs in Armenia |
Yerevan State Medical University (YSMU)
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who are potential collaborators |
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Mobile clinics |
Armenian Dental Society of California (working with Paros Foundation)
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See also
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